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	<description>the black swan with digital wings</description>
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		<title>By: Darkshifter</title>
		<link>http://cygnoir.net/2005/02/04/librariandecision/comment-page-1/#comment-984</link>
		<dc:creator>Darkshifter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2005 23:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would love to read your story, kid. I think you&#039;d have an interesting perpsective on the male psyche, what with you probably hanging around a ton o&#039; males due to your geek like qualities. And I mean that in a good way.
As for the future...no one knows what the future holds (except for tarot cards and horoscopes cause you know, those are based on fact) but just know that you should always strive to be happy. If the state you&#039;re in isn&#039;t a happy one, begin looking around you and figure out what can make you happy. And if that means a change of scenery, then so be it. But do what you think will make your life better. And hey, taking a chance at something else is a good thing. We all take chances. It&#039;s what life is all about.
And Mormon boys are hot.
&#039;nuff said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would love to read your story, kid. I think you&#8217;d have an interesting perpsective on the male psyche, what with you probably hanging around a ton o&#8217; males due to your geek like qualities. And I mean that in a good way.<br />
As for the future&#8230;no one knows what the future holds (except for tarot cards and horoscopes cause you know, those are based on fact) but just know that you should always strive to be happy. If the state you&#8217;re in isn&#8217;t a happy one, begin looking around you and figure out what can make you happy. And if that means a change of scenery, then so be it. But do what you think will make your life better. And hey, taking a chance at something else is a good thing. We all take chances. It&#8217;s what life is all about.<br />
And Mormon boys are hot.<br />
&#8217;nuff said.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://cygnoir.net/2005/02/04/librariandecision/comment-page-1/#comment-983</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2005 05:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I vote for &#039;not to focus on librarianship and keep trying to kick-start my writing career&#039;

Pete Goss once said:

&#160;&#160;&#160;Life is short, and the cancer of time is complacency.
&#160;&#160;&#160;If you want to do something, do it now.
&#160;&#160;&#160;Tomorrow is too late.

which I am trying to take to heart. I&#039;m not sure what it&#039;s trying to tell me, personally. But, err, maybe it&#039;s clear in your case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I vote for &#8216;not to focus on librarianship and keep trying to kick-start my writing career&#8217;</p>
<p>Pete Goss once said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Life is short, and the cancer of time is complacency.<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;If you want to do something, do it now.<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Tomorrow is too late.</p>
<p>which I am trying to take to heart. I&#8217;m not sure what it&#8217;s trying to tell me, personally. But, err, maybe it&#8217;s clear in your case.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2005 17:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frustrated ambition is common place, Halsted. You seem to be the type of person who is more concerned about what sort of person you are, rather than what you have or what you are worth. Focus on that. Material ambition can be easily beaten down at every turn by unethical people with power. What sort of person you can become is something within one&#039;s own power. I think that your path to success lies in that direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frustrated ambition is common place, Halsted. You seem to be the type of person who is more concerned about what sort of person you are, rather than what you have or what you are worth. Focus on that. Material ambition can be easily beaten down at every turn by unethical people with power. What sort of person you can become is something within one&#8217;s own power. I think that your path to success lies in that direction.</p>
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		<title>By: cornontheschwab</title>
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		<dc:creator>cornontheschwab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Feb 2005 17:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I know what you mean...I don&#039;t want to do whatever it is that I do all my life. I&#039;ve written a childrens short story, and repeated attempts at publishing it have enraged me. I&#039;m really more of a poet, and I&#039;ve written many of them. The plan is to publish a book of poetry, but I&#039;m nowhere near the number of poems that I need to publish. I just wanted you to know that there&#039;s someone who &lt;i&gt;REALLY&lt;/i&gt; understands what you&#039;re going through...and sometimes...it will get you to feel a little better just knowing that someone &lt;i&gt;REALLY&lt;/i&gt; understands what you&#039;re going through...:) Best wishes...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I know what you mean&#8230;I don&#8217;t want to do whatever it is that I do all my life. I&#8217;ve written a childrens short story, and repeated attempts at publishing it have enraged me. I&#8217;m really more of a poet, and I&#8217;ve written many of them. The plan is to publish a book of poetry, but I&#8217;m nowhere near the number of poems that I need to publish. I just wanted you to know that there&#8217;s someone who <i>REALLY</i> understands what you&#8217;re going through&#8230;and sometimes&#8230;it will get you to feel a little better just knowing that someone <i>REALLY</i> understands what you&#8217;re going through&#8230;:) Best wishes&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Feb 2005 17:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Follow your heart. Write. It&#039;s much better to be happy than rich (although being happy *and* rich must be good, too).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Follow your heart. Write. It&#8217;s much better to be happy than rich (although being happy *and* rich must be good, too).</p>
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		<title>By: J. Steinhoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. Steinhoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Feb 2005 03:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm! The story sounds like a neat idea. If you need a male role model to inspire you, think of all of the men you have met, and become the sum of their parts. That would be an interesting perspective you could give that would even blow away us men who have made the imagery possible.

As far as your indecision of your job and career choice, I really don&#039;t have much insight to offer you. Mine is strictly personal. I have always dreamed of being a triple threat performer - a dj, an actor and a musician. Well, after graduating with all three skill sets well exercised, the real world came along and kept on asking me for money.

So, I wound up temping, and after 10 years now work as a team leader for a Fortune 500 company based out of Seattle. That takes up most of my time, but the pay and benefits are awesome and allow me to live a comfortable life.

Do I still dream of becoming the triple threat? Not really. I have not announced full time since college (excluding a few voice overs for some training films), have performed locally with three different bands (The Sweeneys, Peevo, and The Filthy Bastards) and have appeared in movies and stage plays over the years. I enjoy doing those projects, and what has worked for me it to have one place to draw money and stability from, and to move my dreams to another area of my life. My dreams are done in spare time, not full time. It is a sacrifice to be sure, but to not have expectations stapled to what I love is warm and inviting to me.

I guess what I&#039;m trying to say is that everyone needs to find a comfort zone between their dreams and the reality of getting bills paid. You are lucky in that you are in a position where the dream and the job coincided. While you are currently doubting your situation, remember the dreams that have led you to this point. Your work and your dreams may not always co-exist, but if you keep perspective on the dreams that have carried you to this point of your life, you will have the insight necessary to do the right thing in your heart. - J.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm! The story sounds like a neat idea. If you need a male role model to inspire you, think of all of the men you have met, and become the sum of their parts. That would be an interesting perspective you could give that would even blow away us men who have made the imagery possible.</p>
<p>As far as your indecision of your job and career choice, I really don&#8217;t have much insight to offer you. Mine is strictly personal. I have always dreamed of being a triple threat performer &#8211; a dj, an actor and a musician. Well, after graduating with all three skill sets well exercised, the real world came along and kept on asking me for money.</p>
<p>So, I wound up temping, and after 10 years now work as a team leader for a Fortune 500 company based out of Seattle. That takes up most of my time, but the pay and benefits are awesome and allow me to live a comfortable life.</p>
<p>Do I still dream of becoming the triple threat? Not really. I have not announced full time since college (excluding a few voice overs for some training films), have performed locally with three different bands (The Sweeneys, Peevo, and The Filthy Bastards) and have appeared in movies and stage plays over the years. I enjoy doing those projects, and what has worked for me it to have one place to draw money and stability from, and to move my dreams to another area of my life. My dreams are done in spare time, not full time. It is a sacrifice to be sure, but to not have expectations stapled to what I love is warm and inviting to me.</p>
<p>I guess what I&#8217;m trying to say is that everyone needs to find a comfort zone between their dreams and the reality of getting bills paid. You are lucky in that you are in a position where the dream and the job coincided. While you are currently doubting your situation, remember the dreams that have led you to this point. Your work and your dreams may not always co-exist, but if you keep perspective on the dreams that have carried you to this point of your life, you will have the insight necessary to do the right thing in your heart. &#8211; J.</p>
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		<title>By: fivecats</title>
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		<dc:creator>fivecats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2005 21:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back in the mid-90s I was an elementary school librarian.  It was the best job I&#039;ve ever had and likely the best job I&#039;m going to have.  I loved working with young kids, reading to them, introducing them to research resources and watching them grow up over the years.

I was a &quot;lateral entry&quot;, meaning someone from &quot;outside&quot; the educational field.  My first masters (in children and television) was enough to interest them in me; the catch was, however, to keep the job I had to get an MLS.

So, over the course of 5 summers, I got my MLS.

At some point after that my wife looked at me and said, &quot;We&#039;re sinking.  You need to find another job.&quot;  She was right -- teachers in NC, at the time, ranked 42nd in teacher pay.

When I started searching around for other jobs, I started looking at college-level librarian positions.  Lots of years of experience plus a brand-new MLS should get me somewhere, I thought.

Wrong.  &quot;Professional&quot; librarians, I found, were paid extremely little for all of the experience and education the positions were calling for.

Now, I&#039;ve done library work since I was in third grade and have always felt comfortable in libraries.  However, it quickly became apparent to me that what I liked about my job was working with the kids and not the &quot;library&quot; aspect of the job.

Library work, to me was, and is, b-o-o-o-o-ring.

I have met people who just love their jobs as librarians.  They love cataloging, they love sitting at the Reference Desk, they love shelving books and weeding a collection.  Obviously, it takes a special kind of person, one who loves library work and is willing to do so for very little pay, to be a great librarian.

On a separate tact, there are very few people who are able to make a living at writing.  And getting to that point often takes years and years.

My gut instinct is to always tell people to follow their dreams.  Not following a dream will only make you filled with regrets later in life.  You seem too full of life and spirit to do that.

At the same time, for myself, if I had it to do all over again, I&#039;d put some focus to my life.  (My college degrees and job path are fine examples of God&#039;s sense of humor.  &quot;Not exactly linear&quot; was how the last person I interviews with put it)  If you&#039;re going to follow a dream, doing so with purpose and focus is vital to making it all work.

My unasked for opinion: if you fit all of these criteria, I&#039;d say go for the MLIS.  If not, consider what you&#039;d either really like to do and/or what you&#039;d like to do while you&#039;re on the path to doing what you really want to be able to do and go with that.

(And, yes, I tend to not be brief in my comments sometimes.  Sorry.)

...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back in the mid-90s I was an elementary school librarian.  It was the best job I&#8217;ve ever had and likely the best job I&#8217;m going to have.  I loved working with young kids, reading to them, introducing them to research resources and watching them grow up over the years.</p>
<p>I was a &#8220;lateral entry&#8221;, meaning someone from &#8220;outside&#8221; the educational field.  My first masters (in children and television) was enough to interest them in me; the catch was, however, to keep the job I had to get an MLS.</p>
<p>So, over the course of 5 summers, I got my MLS.</p>
<p>At some point after that my wife looked at me and said, &#8220;We&#8217;re sinking.  You need to find another job.&#8221;  She was right &#8212; teachers in NC, at the time, ranked 42nd in teacher pay.</p>
<p>When I started searching around for other jobs, I started looking at college-level librarian positions.  Lots of years of experience plus a brand-new MLS should get me somewhere, I thought.</p>
<p>Wrong.  &#8220;Professional&#8221; librarians, I found, were paid extremely little for all of the experience and education the positions were calling for.</p>
<p>Now, I&#8217;ve done library work since I was in third grade and have always felt comfortable in libraries.  However, it quickly became apparent to me that what I liked about my job was working with the kids and not the &#8220;library&#8221; aspect of the job.</p>
<p>Library work, to me was, and is, b-o-o-o-o-ring.</p>
<p>I have met people who just love their jobs as librarians.  They love cataloging, they love sitting at the Reference Desk, they love shelving books and weeding a collection.  Obviously, it takes a special kind of person, one who loves library work and is willing to do so for very little pay, to be a great librarian.</p>
<p>On a separate tact, there are very few people who are able to make a living at writing.  And getting to that point often takes years and years.</p>
<p>My gut instinct is to always tell people to follow their dreams.  Not following a dream will only make you filled with regrets later in life.  You seem too full of life and spirit to do that.</p>
<p>At the same time, for myself, if I had it to do all over again, I&#8217;d put some focus to my life.  (My college degrees and job path are fine examples of God&#8217;s sense of humor.  &#8220;Not exactly linear&#8221; was how the last person I interviews with put it)  If you&#8217;re going to follow a dream, doing so with purpose and focus is vital to making it all work.</p>
<p>My unasked for opinion: if you fit all of these criteria, I&#8217;d say go for the MLIS.  If not, consider what you&#8217;d either really like to do and/or what you&#8217;d like to do while you&#8217;re on the path to doing what you really want to be able to do and go with that.</p>
<p>(And, yes, I tend to not be brief in my comments sometimes.  Sorry.)</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John S</title>
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		<dc:creator>John S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2005 16:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can understand your frustration about furthering your education. My brother-in-law told me that his tool and die subcontractor had several people who had Master&#039;s degrees and Ph.D&#039;s working for him doing blue-collar jobs. It seems that they could not find job opportunities in their field of study.

It made me chuckle that these advanced degrees had the value of cow manure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can understand your frustration about furthering your education. My brother-in-law told me that his tool and die subcontractor had several people who had Master&#8217;s degrees and Ph.D&#8217;s working for him doing blue-collar jobs. It seems that they could not find job opportunities in their field of study.</p>
<p>It made me chuckle that these advanced degrees had the value of cow manure.</p>
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		<title>By: Talkendo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Talkendo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2005 14:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was back home two weekends ago, talking with my mom.  I was going over all my frustrations about my current job, your basic whinge and moan job.  She, in her inimitable way, related a story about taking her first job after my dad left the navy.  She had a passion and applied for a job that would help her follow it.  She didn&#039;t get that one, but they offered her a different one.  She took it, and kept taking every nursing certificate she could for Labor and Delivery (what she REALLY wanted).  Eventually, she got the job and for 10 - 15 years did exactly what she wanted to do.  Things have changed now, and I think she just really wants to be a potter, but hey.

If you can&#039;t get what you really want, or if what you really want can&#039;t pay the bills; find something close.  No job&#039;s perfect, but hating what you do sucks the fun out of life.  And life really ought to be fun.

Now, if I could only follow my own mom&#039;s advice, rather than regurgitating it online....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was back home two weekends ago, talking with my mom.  I was going over all my frustrations about my current job, your basic whinge and moan job.  She, in her inimitable way, related a story about taking her first job after my dad left the navy.  She had a passion and applied for a job that would help her follow it.  She didn&#8217;t get that one, but they offered her a different one.  She took it, and kept taking every nursing certificate she could for Labor and Delivery (what she REALLY wanted).  Eventually, she got the job and for 10 &#8211; 15 years did exactly what she wanted to do.  Things have changed now, and I think she just really wants to be a potter, but hey.</p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t get what you really want, or if what you really want can&#8217;t pay the bills; find something close.  No job&#8217;s perfect, but hating what you do sucks the fun out of life.  And life really ought to be fun.</p>
<p>Now, if I could only follow my own mom&#8217;s advice, rather than regurgitating it online&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2005 14:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Halsted,

My heart aches for you.  I have been in situations very similar to the one which you are currently experiencing.  My wife once told me something very significant when I was contemplating leaving grad school one class shy of graduation.  She said, &quot;It seems bad now, but believe me, it WILL get better.&quot;

It seems simplistic and trite, but I find that it works for me.

Chin up ... FWIW, know that you are surrounded by friends.  Call it a cyber dividend of posting your blog on-line.  People are DRAWN to you.  I think that&#039;s terribly cool and inspiring.

Thanks for the energy surge that your page gives me.

David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Halsted,</p>
<p>My heart aches for you.  I have been in situations very similar to the one which you are currently experiencing.  My wife once told me something very significant when I was contemplating leaving grad school one class shy of graduation.  She said, &#8220;It seems bad now, but believe me, it WILL get better.&#8221;</p>
<p>It seems simplistic and trite, but I find that it works for me.</p>
<p>Chin up &#8230; FWIW, know that you are surrounded by friends.  Call it a cyber dividend of posting your blog on-line.  People are DRAWN to you.  I think that&#8217;s terribly cool and inspiring.</p>
<p>Thanks for the energy surge that your page gives me.</p>
<p>David</p>
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