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I don’t know the answer to this,but I sure do Identify to the question.
If you find out the answer,please post it.
I think the only people who are really secure about this are
egomaniacs who don’t care what other people think.

Good luck.

I may be oversimplifying here, but.. this is not a question that can be answered properly in a general context.

I think that not only is the dialog of the actor(s) involved, but also the individual actors involved in a particular conversational interaction are important factors to consider when attempting to detect the presence of or a complete lack of subtext in a conversation.

Factors to consider — if a stranger/acquaintance says to you that your outfit looks “really comfortable” — should you imagine that really meant “you look outstandingly obese today”? Or should you maybe imagine that it only means you look like a well put together person who looks very comfortable/happy in whatever outfit is actually in question? Consider also that many people might not be able to even define the word ‘subtext’, let alone use it in conversation.

So, I guess I’m also saying if you know the person in question, trust them a bit to stick to saying what they mean. If you don’t know the person in question well, and what they say doesn’t matchwhat they really mean should you be responsible for having to decipher the difference?

Personally, I worry significantly more about what other say about me when I’m around — imaginations can really run wild with that one.
You are not responsible for deciphering the difference, and I am quite certain you have better things to spend time thinking/worrying about.

And trust your gut, it is better than most of us realize.

My spin is a little different than Deans, but comes from the same place. Sometimes I need to have the confidence to just let things like these go. Often it’s just something that’s rooted in insecurity and it will pass. If it’s not and it represents something that genuinely needs fixing, it helps to know that I can always come back to it again later when I have a little perspective.

My mom said, “What other people think is not your business.” It’s true, you know.

I do that too though, where I’m so upset that I forget why I am upset.

I try not to analyze too much or I get nutty….er

Have you ever read “Feeling Good”. It helped me a lot, and mostly what it says is that your feelings are generated by your thoughts. Most of us tell ourselves a lot of things that aren’t true, or at least things we don’t know are true. If you manage your thinking, you can at least somewhat manage your emotions and reactions. A lot of depression is generated by lies our mind tells us about ourselves and our situations.

Also, I learned to stop always asking myself what other people think and feel, and instead ask myself what I think and feel first. For example, I used to dwell on whether or not my partner was satisfied in our relationship. Well, that’s a good way to avoid thinking about whether or not I’M satisfied! So now, I just worry about my satisfaction, and trust that our communication and relationship are good and that he’ll tell me if there is an issue.

When I read “The Four Agreements”, the one that resonated with me the most was the one I paraphrase as “the words people say have more to do with them than they do with you”. This frees you from wondering about what underlying message they’re not-saying, because in most cases what they’ve said is more self-involved than not, and there is no hidden meaning you need to spend time worrying about. I think this jibes pretty well with the other excellent comments you’ve already seen on this subject.

I had similar issues when I first met up with my now husband decades ago. He told me that I had to trust that he was telling me what he meant, straight, no subtle meanings. If I had a question, I should ask. I should not stew over what I was worried he wasn’t saying. Takes effort, but if you always take people at their word, they’ll learn to make sure that their words are an accurate reflection of what they are thinking. I second the Four Agreements. I’ll go investigate Feeling Good too.

I drink.

Hugs,
Ryan

Thanks, Dean. Keep an eye here for “the answer” … some folks have some really good ones!

Wise words, as always, Lara, especially the idea of not being responsible for deciphering the difference between what someone says and what they mean. Thank you.

Here’s hoping for more confidence and more perspective.

Great quote from your mom! I need to remember that.

You know, I love that book. Unfortunately, my copy was given away, so I have to purchase it again, because I need to re-read it and think deeply on it again.

You have such a healthy attitude about this topic. I admire you for it. Thanks for sharing your thoughts with me.

I should re-read that book. I loved it when I read it. Thank you so much for reminding me of that agreement.

Takes effort, but if you always take people at their word, they’ll learn to make sure that their words are an accurate reflection of what they are thinking.

So true, and so worth the effort. Thank you for sharing your experience.

What are you waiting for? Pour one for me and let’s toast.

*clink*

I learned to take people at face value. I refuse to play the ‘guess what I really mean’ game. If they want to tell me something, I expect them to tell me straight out since it is their responsiblity to ensure I receive the message. I have neither the time nor the desire for playing mental guessing games.

You’re right, of course. I have counter-examples for “at face value” in the workplace, however, especially with my current project.